Waffling Taylors Goes To The Movies

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Players

Squidge

Jay

Lulu

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Content Warning

As this is both our Spootober episode and an episode which covers the 2005 action horror movie Doom, this episode contains discussions of things, and words, which are not safe for work or the ears of the innocent.

Please listen responsibly.

Show Notes

Spooptober is upon us once again. This year we wanted to tackle a spoopy video game movie for our Waffling Taylors Goes To The Movies series. But what to choose, what to choose? We’ve already covered The House of the Dead, and the first two Resident Evil movies

psst. there are three links there for the Resident Evil movies, because our exploration of the second movie took that long that we split it into two parts

because of that, we decided to cover the 2005 action horror movie version of Doom!

As with our House of the Dead episode

do check that out, if you want to hear the boys talking smack about an Uwe Boll movie

we decided to change up the format of our “goes to the movies” episodes. Instead of working through the plot, we decided that it would be much more fun to focus on a handful of scenes from the movie. This serves the double purpose of:

  • Simplifying our episodes, and getting to the gags quicker
  • Not having to discuss the plot - the one thing we’re not here for

Basic Info on the Movie

Jay dropped some key facts on this movie before we could get to our discussion on it:

Jay's Avatar Jay:

This is a movie that was released in 2005.

It had a budget of 60-70 million dollars, but only took 58 million dollars at the box office. So it was kind of a flop, but not as much as Final Fantasy: The Sprits Within.

Although it’s based on Doom, I feel like it’s more based on Doom 3 due to the design of the BFG and the dark corridors.

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Initial Thoughts

Squidge started the conversation off with a very relevant question:

Squidge's Avatar Squidge:

But why did they make Doom into a stealth movie?

And he’s not wrong, a large part of the first hour of the movie is mostly the Marines stalking about in the darkness.

Squidge's Avatar Squidge:

This is just Doom, but set in the Red Dwarf universe

… another thing that everyone agreed with, too.

Then Jay dropped the ultimate piece of trivia for this movie:

Jay's Avatar Jay:

Apparently, Rosamund Pike turned down the role of Rita Skeeter in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire to be in this movie

Was that a misstep? Well, Lulu thought so:

Lulu's Avatar Lulu:

Fool! She would have been fantastic as Rita Skeeter

And the big twist

if you want to call it that

that “The Rock” didn’t play the good guy in the movie was a breath of fresh air.

Lulu's Avatar Lulu:

They actually hint at it early on in the movie, too. So if you’re not just turning your brain off and watching along, there are hints to pick up on.

And thank goodness that ol’ Rocky Maivia had started taking acting lessons after this movie, otherwise he may not have made it in Hollywood

Lulu's Avatar Lulu:

He was doing a lot of "smell the fart acting", too

Then again, there are a lot of bad actors who are incredibly highly paid by Hollywood.

The Scenes We Want To Highlight

Lulu’s description for her chosen scene was amazing:

Lulu's Avatar Lulu:

Kissing guns is macho; macho gun pointing is macho

And it’s easy to see why she described it like that:

The Marine characters stand in a circle, pointing their guns at the person on the right of them, creating a circle of macho-ness.
Macho gun pointing (click to enlarge)

and half a second later:

Showing the camera feeds from each of the main characters guns. The are still pointing their guns at each other for maximum Macho-ness.
Ripping off Aliens, or hand waving for the FPS section later? (click to enlarge)

And a question raised about a certain scene when the Marines first enter the lab complex and are checking the air content:

Jay's Avatar Jay:

Would that scene have been better with Buzz Lightyear doing his "I can’t breathe" bit from Toy Story?

Showing Buzz Lightyear struggling to breathe in the original Toy Story movie.
Having the early version of Buzz in Doom would have made it waaaay better. (click to enlarge)

let us know on our Discord server

As far as the hosts were concerned, it would have been a much better scene with Buzz struggling for air for no reason. Gotta love that scenery chewing.

And now discussion of this movie would be complete without talking about the first-person shooter scene. If you’ve never seen it, we mean this scene:

Seriously, how fantastic was this scene. Ok, it was mostly men in rubber suits jumping out at the “player”, one at a time. But it has the feeling of the Doom titles, for sure. And in the words of RazörFist (aka The Ragaholic), it quite literally was:

Shooting. Demons. On Mars. While heavy metal blares over top.

A scene which takes place entirely in the first-person and has “Reaper” make his way through the labs, taking on zombies, demons, and a newly turned Pinkie on his search for his sister. This whole thing is just shy of 5 minutes of what it’s like to play a Doom game.

Lulu's Avatar Lulu:

Someone deserved a high five and a raise for that [scene]

And the “big fat tacos” song that Lulu is referring to is:

you’re welcome

How Would We Rate It?

We don’t usually rate games or movies, in fact we have never done that. And this was a conscious decision that we made early in the life of the site.

But we needed to figure out a way to tell you all whether we think you should watch this movie or not. Normally we would rely on three ratings across three categories, which are:

  • Love it (best)
  • Try it
  • Fling it into a tree (worst)

Across these categories:

  • As an action horror movie
  • As a video game movie
  • As a Doom movie in the Doom canon
Squidge’s Ratings
CategoryRating
As a video game moveLove it
As an action horror movieLove it
As a Doom movie in the Doom canonFling it into a tree
Lulu’s Ratings
CategoryRating
As a video game moveLove it
As an action horror movieLove it
As a Doom movie in the Doom canonTry it
Jay’s Ratings
CategoryRating
As a video game moveLove it
As an action horror movieTry it
As a Doom movie in the Doom canonTry it

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Games Covered

We mentioned 9 games in this podcast. In the following order, those games where: